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joe mcknight ran back a 100 yard kickoff return for a touchdown. new york had a chance to take the lee late in the fourth quarter. mark sanchez couldn't pull it off. it was picked off by jackson with two minutes left to play. >>> this is sad news coming from the nfl, alex karras, well known for that roll as the lovable father in the '80s sitcom webster, news is out that he is suffering from kidney failure and has only been given a few days to live. the 77-year-old has been suffering from dementia in recent years and is part of that mass concussion lawsuit involving more than 3,000 players that is filed against the nfl. >>> to baseball, cardinals bashed the nationals knotting their series at one. carlos beltran hit that last two of his teams four homers. >>> the orioles even it up with the yankees after a bases loaded two-run single by chris davis in the third put them up 2-1. baltimore tacked on a final run in the sixth with a mark republic reynolds single. they won 3-2. >>> in golf, tiger woods reportedly apologized to several of his ryder cup roo
joe mcknight ran back a 100 yard kickoff return for a touchdown. new york had a chance to take the lee late in the fourth quarter. mark sanchez couldn't pull it off. it was picked off by jackson with two minutes left to play. >>> this is sad news coming from the nfl, alex karras, well known for that roll as the lovable father in the '80s sitcom webster, news is out that he is suffering from kidney failure and has only been given a few days to live. the 77-year-old has been suffering...
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i think this is teed up perfectly for joe biden. all the things we talked about last week we wished the president might have thrown at mitt romney or asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which deductions you two are going to close. he can confront him on the $716 billion that he also likewise cuts from medicare. >> identical number. >> identical number. that's a wonderful thing to be teed up for vice president biden, and he can also just come at him on the issue of entitlements generally. paul ryan is somebody who apparently saved the survivor benefits that he got from social security, used tm to go to a good college, and now has been a long-time advocate of privatizing social security. >> i just wish joe biden would at some point ask the qu
i think this is teed up perfectly for joe biden. all the things we talked about last week we wished the president might have thrown at mitt romney or asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which...
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>> you may have overlooked the fact that for the last few weeks i've been joe biden. so -- >> mr. olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because t
>> you may have overlooked the fact that for the last few weeks i've been joe biden. so -- >> mr. olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and...
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you know, barack obama was asked what should joe biden do, he said, well, joe just needs to be joe. well, joe was definitely joe. >> that's what his son said on the show last night. >> he did what barack obama said he should do. i think that broadly you're exactly right, chris, which is the democratic base wanted this. they like that joe biden. they don't care that, oh, well, he was disparaging. they don't care about any of that stuff related to paul ryan. they like the laughing and smiling. they think what paul ryan is saying is fundamentally wrong and ludicrous. the republican base doesn't like joe biden going in. they're not going to like joe biden going out. it doesn't change the race in any way, shape, or form. i don't want to sound too cynical, my guess is most people who remain undecided at this point probably were watching some combination of orioles/yankees, nfl, something else. >> we'll see. here is what john dickerson wrote in slate today about the vice president performance. biden was defending the middle class while ryan was defending romney. biden's greatest asset was
you know, barack obama was asked what should joe biden do, he said, well, joe just needs to be joe. well, joe was definitely joe. >> that's what his son said on the show last night. >> he did what barack obama said he should do. i think that broadly you're exactly right, chris, which is the democratic base wanted this. they like that joe biden. they don't care that, oh, well, he was disparaging. they don't care about any of that stuff related to paul ryan. they like the laughing and...
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paul ryan a b and joe biden a b-. here is the wisdom. democrats say joe biden was strong, he was the adult on stage. he stopped the bleeding, such that it was from last week's debate. for republicans paul ryan passed the can he be president threshold and joe biden was rude and arrogant. what say you? >> it's certainly the case. there were some democrats who conceded the point. that's why i gave the vice president a lower grade. the smiles, laughs, smirks. i don't think it changed anything about the race. i think that they both laid down the markers and, again, for their own parties, mostly. the vice president energizing democrats and for paul ryan showing people he was on that stage and not overrun. the vice president clearly dominated the proceedings. >> we have seen paul ryan a lot for those of us who cover politics. we have seen him on press conferences and capitol hill, never in the big lights. how did he do from start to finish? >> you know, again, we were reading the leaves a little bit. i thought he started out nervous. he reacted
paul ryan a b and joe biden a b-. here is the wisdom. democrats say joe biden was strong, he was the adult on stage. he stopped the bleeding, such that it was from last week's debate. for republicans paul ryan passed the can he be president threshold and joe biden was rude and arrogant. what say you? >> it's certainly the case. there were some democrats who conceded the point. that's why i gave the vice president a lower grade. the smiles, laughs, smirks. i don't think it changed anything...
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i want to go to joe about the other joe last night. joe was active, exciting, overexcited perhaps, laughed a lot, perhaps laughed to ridicule and maybe the ridicule was appropriate. putting it all together, do you agree with me he won? >> oh, yeah, i think he won. i think he gave the other side some talking points with all of his smirking and laughing and so on, although i imagine if you're in the reality-based world, it's kind of tough to just sit there and pout while the guy is, you know -- >> well said. >> -- quoting whoppers. >> what are you supposed to do in this crazy split screen world? what are you supposed to do with your face when the guy three feet from you is saying thins you think are dead wrong? are you supposed to look down like the president did? and he was dumped o on for that. or do you look up with a jolly face? >> or seriously take notes and shake your head in a disparaging way, but it should be smaller whatever it is than what joe was doing. joe was doing last night. although as he would say, god bless him, i love
i want to go to joe about the other joe last night. joe was active, exciting, overexcited perhaps, laughed a lot, perhaps laughed to ridicule and maybe the ridicule was appropriate. putting it all together, do you agree with me he won? >> oh, yeah, i think he won. i think he gave the other side some talking points with all of his smirking and laughing and so on, although i imagine if you're in the reality-based world, it's kind of tough to just sit there and pout while the guy is, you...
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went on offense against paul ryan. >> joe was definitely joe. >> it's about time they take some responsibility here. >> i'm not into man fights. >> mr. ryan said last night to governor romney was a car guy. well, if they had an elevator stack i guess he was. >> today the campaigning continues the post debate campaigning has already kicked into high gear. >> we're going to level the playing field. it's time to acknowledge what got us into this trouble in the first place. >> the vice president defends the status quo. >> that's a bunch of ma larky. the. >> paul ryan care about each and every american. >> stop caring about how you care about people. show me something. >> the table is now reset. >> with the v.p. debate now over. >> who gets to hit the panic button next? >> with 25 days until the presidential election, the obama re-election campaign is seizing on this statement by paul ryan in last night's debate. >> if the romney/ryan ticket is elected, should those who believe that abortion should remain legal be worried? >> we don't think that unelected judges should make this decision, that peop
went on offense against paul ryan. >> joe was definitely joe. >> it's about time they take some responsibility here. >> i'm not into man fights. >> mr. ryan said last night to governor romney was a car guy. well, if they had an elevator stack i guess he was. >> today the campaigning continues the post debate campaigning has already kicked into high gear. >> we're going to level the playing field. it's time to acknowledge what got us into this trouble in the...
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the debate between paul ryan and joe biden. president kennedy got a surprise mention with joe biden's sarcastic outburst, now you're jack kennedy sparking the tweets at 58,000 per minute. the debate continued. massive questions on a crucial issue. luckily, brian williams was able to clear up the issue about the lapel pins. >> people were asking, not only is the flag larger, what is the symbol in the middle of field stripes. it's the u.s. secret service pin. they hand it out to friends and protectees. >> before the debate, "time" magazine released these photos. it triggered what was called a dumbbell debate. >>> a search on google images with the phrase completely wrong brings up mitt romney. google says there's no partisan politics here. he used the phrase about his 47% comments. >>> california congressman was debating when things got testy. the rhetoric heated up and sherman got physical. before things escalated into a wrestling match, a police officer stepped in and the debate wrapped up with no injuries. that's your morning
the debate between paul ryan and joe biden. president kennedy got a surprise mention with joe biden's sarcastic outburst, now you're jack kennedy sparking the tweets at 58,000 per minute. the debate continued. massive questions on a crucial issue. luckily, brian williams was able to clear up the issue about the lapel pins. >> people were asking, not only is the flag larger, what is the symbol in the middle of field stripes. it's the u.s. secret service pin. they hand it out to friends and...
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let joe be joe, i say. bring it on. talk about grandpa finnegan, the works. talk about scranton 30 times, it doesn't bother me. anyway, thank you, cynthia turk and eugene robinson. >>> when we return, let me finish whether president obama is better with a good debate performance or a good unemployment number, which he actually got. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios >>> let me finish tonight with this. it's what you do with what you've got. question, would president obama be better off if he'd had won last week's debate, but then had a jobless rate spike up to 8.5%? or is he better off for having lost last week's first debate, and having seen the unemployment rate drop down to 7.8%? a political pro will say, go with what you've got. you got a bad break on the debate, but a great break on the jobless rate. sell it! let the other side t
let joe be joe, i say. bring it on. talk about grandpa finnegan, the works. talk about scranton 30 times, it doesn't bother me. anyway, thank you, cynthia turk and eugene robinson. >>> when we return, let me finish whether president obama is better with a good debate performance or a good unemployment number, which he actually got. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans?...
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just needs to be joe. congressman ryan is a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. >> mitt romney's debate performance last week re-energized his campaign, but our brand new swing state polls show it didn't change a lot of minds. 92% of voters in ohio and florida made up their minds before the debate. 91% in virginia. overall, the dial did move slightly in romney's favor in florida and virginia, the race is virtually tied. but president obama leads ohio by six points in the nbc news "wall street journal" maris poll. joining me to talk about all of it, e.j.dion and dana milbank. gentlemen, good morning. remember the old commercial never let them see you sweat? dana, how much pressure is joe biden under tonight? >> he's been at this an awfully long time. and he's sort of an old pro at this. in fact i think both of them will be pretty good. i'm looking forward to this debate. i think more than last week. here we have two sharp guys who can really mix it up on policy. maybe give us some
just needs to be joe. congressman ryan is a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. >> mitt romney's debate performance last week re-energized his campaign, but our brand new swing state polls show it didn't change a lot of minds. 92% of voters in ohio and florida made up their minds before the debate. 91% in virginia. overall, the dial did move slightly in romney's favor in florida and virginia, the race is virtually tied. but president obama leads ohio by six...
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i say it's just joe being joe. ryan took it in stride and tried to hold his own. look at all that water the congressman was drinking. does he have a strenuous p90x workout before the debate? you had a different experience than the viewers because optics and body language are crucial in debates. some say that is the whole ball game. in the guest spot we have bill mcgowan, one of the top media trainers in the country, ceo of the clarity media group. good to see you sitting up straight. >> lead by example. >> you better be perfect. >> i better be. the pressure's on. >> one of the things that jumped out at me was the moments where joe biden stared directly into the camera and it seemed very intense, very serious and at least one of moments, a couple of the moments he was talking directly to seniors which, of course, he is one. it was very much like this is serious, this is real, i'm leveling with you, i'm one of you, listen to me. what did you think about that? >> i think it was effective, i thought it represented some of his better moments. interestingly ryan did not
i say it's just joe being joe. ryan took it in stride and tried to hold his own. look at all that water the congressman was drinking. does he have a strenuous p90x workout before the debate? you had a different experience than the viewers because optics and body language are crucial in debates. some say that is the whole ball game. in the guest spot we have bill mcgowan, one of the top media trainers in the country, ceo of the clarity media group. good to see you sitting up straight. >>...
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the problem is joe biden is a good debater. a six-term u.s. senator, the sixth youngestist senator ever elected to the body. vice president in 2008 largely on the strength of his debating performances. not like he won a bunch of primary and a funny thing happens with joe biden in between where people got this onion inflected impression of him as a guy washing his transam in the white house parking lot and what biden is about at and what he is unable to counter is he wields authority well. i have known bb for 35 years. i was best friends and in the room and that for a guy that looks even younger than he is like ryan was devastating. >> let's listen to joe biden talking about romney's 47%. >> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. 82% of them pay their payroll taxes and other taxes and at an effective rate higher than romney pays his taxes. over 10% of them are senior citizens on social security. the rest are disabled vets and veterans and military personnel fighting now. that's the
the problem is joe biden is a good debater. a six-term u.s. senator, the sixth youngestist senator ever elected to the body. vice president in 2008 largely on the strength of his debating performances. not like he won a bunch of primary and a funny thing happens with joe biden in between where people got this onion inflected impression of him as a guy washing his transam in the white house parking lot and what biden is about at and what he is unable to counter is he wields authority well. i...
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whether you like joe biden or don't like joe biden and the polls show the country divided on that and people feel hot one way or the other, you would like his gesticulation. democrats needed to turn the page on the last debate with the president. take real punches at republican talking points and set the stage for obama on tuesday. the presidential debates are the ones that people actually use to make decisions. it's not the vice presidential one. it can change a conversation and set the table for the presidential one. >> what i found interesting about this, it was substantive. i think if you really listened to what they said, and you didn't have to go back to the transcript, though i would agree there were parts that were pretty complicated. could you follow if this was your business, if you're a regular american, it might have been tougher, but you saw very clear distinctions between the policies of these two candidates and the men they were representing. yet, there is a lot of talk about the gesticulating. >> hospitals and nursing homes are going to go out of business because of th
whether you like joe biden or don't like joe biden and the polls show the country divided on that and people feel hot one way or the other, you would like his gesticulation. democrats needed to turn the page on the last debate with the president. take real punches at republican talking points and set the stage for obama on tuesday. the presidential debates are the ones that people actually use to make decisions. it's not the vice presidential one. it can change a conversation and set the table...
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joe biden has the opportunity to tell the truth. what mitt romney will do to the middle class in this country. had this may not be a make or break moment for the president and his campaign, but you have to agree that it is a chance for the vice president of the united states to change the tone and the focus of this campaign. not a game-changer, but a course correction. people that i spoke with on friday in ohio were disappointed in the president's debate performance. it's ironic that the same attitude was portrayed on two different locations at memorial university today and also florida international university. people are puzzled why the president didn't come out strong. they were expecting more. comments came to me like we're out fighting for the president, fighting for every vote, and the other night it didn't look like he was fighting for us. what does this mean? it means every stump speech is going to be recorded and reviewed over and over again. this means that the american people are digesting who wants to be president of the
joe biden has the opportunity to tell the truth. what mitt romney will do to the middle class in this country. had this may not be a make or break moment for the president and his campaign, but you have to agree that it is a chance for the vice president of the united states to change the tone and the focus of this campaign. not a game-changer, but a course correction. people that i spoke with on friday in ohio were disappointed in the president's debate performance. it's ironic that the same...
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joe biden or paul ryan? go to facebook.com/newsnation to cast your vote. >>> and let's take a look at the news nation saying after yesterday's gut check. does the bird ad remind you of the president's weak debate issue or bring up romney budget cuts? 11% of you said obama's debate performance. 89% say, hey, big bird reminds you of romney budget cuts. tomorrow i'll be anchoring live from kentucky for the big vice presidential debate. some of my guests, oh, chris matthews. wow. big book there. former rnc chair steele and robinson. and salon.com's erin carmon. "the cycle" is up next. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheerin
joe biden or paul ryan? go to facebook.com/newsnation to cast your vote. >>> and let's take a look at the news nation saying after yesterday's gut check. does the bird ad remind you of the president's weak debate issue or bring up romney budget cuts? 11% of you said obama's debate performance. 89% say, hey, big bird reminds you of romney budget cuts. tomorrow i'll be anchoring live from kentucky for the big vice presidential debate. some of my guests, oh, chris matthews. wow. big book...
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where joe biden and paul ryan will meet. krystal ball is heading there after the show today and will be there live for us tomorrow. the face-off is stark differences of the two men on display. ryan fancies himself a numbers guy, of course. biden is beloved for feared for saying what he thinks and then the generation gap between the two. think of it this way. when biden was elected in 2002, r -- ryan wasn't -- >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice president has done, i don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime. experienced debater. this is, i think paul's first debate. he may have done something in high school. i don't know. >> so amusing. >> we always joke about saying the bar is load for your own side. that might be the lowest. my own thoughts heading in to this, i have been saying, you know, all week that i just basically expect biden to turn in the performance that obama did not turn in. >> sure. >> do not miss the openings that obama missed going after the missing details of romn
where joe biden and paul ryan will meet. krystal ball is heading there after the show today and will be there live for us tomorrow. the face-off is stark differences of the two men on display. ryan fancies himself a numbers guy, of course. biden is beloved for feared for saying what he thinks and then the generation gap between the two. think of it this way. when biden was elected in 2002, r -- ryan wasn't -- >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice...
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only 34% feel that joe biden. so is really expectation more on paul ryan more than joe biden contrary to what has been discussed so far? >> i think it will be interesting to see what happens. a lot of this happens in the moment. it all depends about the chemistry between them and the moderate to have, the audience, how the questions go and what's most important is for both those gentlemen to really be in the moment to really think about their answers, and to make sure they getting across specific points that they want to getting across. >> again, watching the live pictures -- rather the tape that just came in of paul ryan arriving at the location. i want to pivot to the polls. when we look at those numbers, this new round of polling showing that the president falling short of that 50% marker that so many watch specifically in florida and virginia. and democrats, their enthusiasm already seems to be suffering in the wake of last week. what will numbers under 50 do to the enthusiasm surrounding tonight's debate as w
only 34% feel that joe biden. so is really expectation more on paul ryan more than joe biden contrary to what has been discussed so far? >> i think it will be interesting to see what happens. a lot of this happens in the moment. it all depends about the chemistry between them and the moderate to have, the audience, how the questions go and what's most important is for both those gentlemen to really be in the moment to really think about their answers, and to make sure they getting across...
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we'll knock it around with our "morning joe" crew. when we come back, we'll huddle around the water cooler to watch john stewart take on the media obsession with polls, like the one i just told you we'll be obsessing over at the top of the hour. "way too early" coming right back. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. yeah. yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...allstate safe driving bonus check? what is that? so weird, right? my agent, tom, said... [ voice of dennis ] ...only allstate sends you a bonus check for every six months you're accident-free... ...but i'm a woman. maybe it's a misprint. does it look like a misprint? ok. what i was trying... [ voice of dennis ] silence. ♪ ask an allstate agent about the safe driving bonus che
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let joe be joe, i say. bring it on. talk about grandpa finnegan, the works. talk about scranton 30 times, it doesn't bother me. anyway, thank you, cynthia turk and eugene robinson. >>> when we return, let me finish whether president obama is better with a good debate performance or a good unemployment number, which he actually got. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? to start her own interior design business. she's got a growing list of clients she keeps in touch with using e-mail marketing from constantcontact.com. constantcontact is easy and affordable. it lets her send out updates and photos that showcase her expertise and inspire her customers for only $15 a month. [ dog barking ] her dream -- to be the area's hottest interior design office. [ children laughing ] right now, she just dreams of an office. get a free trial at constantcontact.com. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich an
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joe biden has done a lot of debates. by my count, 749. no, closer to 23, but he did 14 in the last year, in 2008 alone. >> yes. >> on the other hand, he's also been vice president for the last four years. i think everyone knows that vice president's don't really get pressed a lot in those four years, you know, when something goes wrong. when something goes wrong, give me the vice president i have some serious questions for him. so i'm wondering if you think the four years of not really having to answer too many tough questions makes him a little rusty despite his years of debate experience? >> well, it made the president rusty. i think it could do the same to joe biden. although he has been working very hard. at the convention he had put in 60 hours of debate prep. what he's been paid for for the last four years comes down to this moment tonight. biden, his mind is not an orderly one all the time, shall we say, but he's -- but he'll be tough. he's going to be defending an entire tradition and history of the democratic party because really
joe biden has done a lot of debates. by my count, 749. no, closer to 23, but he did 14 in the last year, in 2008 alone. >> yes. >> on the other hand, he's also been vice president for the last four years. i think everyone knows that vice president's don't really get pressed a lot in those four years, you know, when something goes wrong. when something goes wrong, give me the vice president i have some serious questions for him. so i'm wondering if you think the four years of not...
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>> i i've always been impressed by joe biden. the reason he ended up on the ticket in 2008 is because of all those primary dietz bates, when it was hillary and obama were the stars, but the guy invariably we end up saying won those debates was joe biden. he's a strong communicator, very good in the debate setting. i expect him to press the case in a way we didn't see last week. how ryan handles that is really the $1 million question. >> steve, thank you for your time tonight. >> sure. >>> catch steve on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 eastern right here on msnbc. >>> still ahead, was there an intervention in the romney campaign? news tonight about a big fight inside team romney. >>> rudy giuliani, think about it, there is only three, a noun, a verbal and 9/11, nothing else. i've been negotiating since you were in congress. if you all had been around enough -- maybe i've been around too long, they forget all the wonderful things i've done -- but all siding aside -- walk around in my neighborhood or go up to scranton with me. these pe
>> i i've always been impressed by joe biden. the reason he ended up on the ticket in 2008 is because of all those primary dietz bates, when it was hillary and obama were the stars, but the guy invariably we end up saying won those debates was joe biden. he's a strong communicator, very good in the debate setting. i expect him to press the case in a way we didn't see last week. how ryan handles that is really the $1 million question. >> steve, thank you for your time tonight....
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joe biden proved that last night. and as winston churchill once said, i like a man who grins when he fights. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. >> the vice president keeps the hits coming after his knockout debate with paul ryan. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me something. >> richard wolffe on the education of congressman paul ryan. >> ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- >> "now's" terri o'neal on the romney ticket's disaster for women. >> if the romney/ryan ticket is elected should those that believe abortion should remain legal be worried? >> david cay johnston on ryan's sixth study lie. >> can you guarantee this math will add up? >> absolutely. six studies have guaranteed. >> and what's more disrespectful? lying to america or interrupting a guy who's lying to america? >> it was openly contemptu
joe biden proved that last night. and as winston churchill once said, i like a man who grins when he fights. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. >> the vice president keeps the hits coming after his knockout debate with paul ryan. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me...
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got it. >>> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm from janesville, wisconsin. do you know what the unemployment rate is in scranton today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. you know what it was the day you guys came in? 8.5%. that's how it's going all around america. >> that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> it is down to 7.8% nationwide. one of many insta fact checking moments courtesy of vice president joe biden in last night's debate. joining us now is frank rich. new york magazine's editor at large. his next story is out next week. it's called the rate we'll triumph in the end. thank you for being here on post debate friday. >> delighted to be here with you. >> i had such a good time watching that debate. it moved so fast and i hope the interrupting was not pointless. i thought the interrupting was sort of an accountability thing. what did you think? >> it was an accountable thing. it was conversational. it wasn't stagey. it didn't seem like a stunt put together, although probably it was. al
got it. >>> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm from janesville, wisconsin. do you know what the unemployment rate is in scranton today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. you know what it was the day you guys came in? 8.5%. that's how it's going all around america. >> that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> it is down to 7.8% nationwide. one of many insta fact checking moments courtesy of vice president joe biden in last...
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paul ryan versus joe biden in centerville, kentucky, last night. come on, this is add good as it ever gets. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me something. show me a policy. show me a policy where you take responsibility. >> this is a plan that's bipartisan. it's a plan i put together with a prominent democrat senator from oregon. >> there's not one democrat who endorses it. not one democrat who signed the plan. >> our partner is a democrat from oregon. >> and he said he does no longer support you for that. >> we put it together with the former clinton budget director. this idea -- >> who disavows it. >> this idea -- >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> well, it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> it is. we irish call it malarky. >> thanks for the translation. >> the idea if you heard that little issoliloquy on 47% and y think he just make a mistake, i think you're -- i got a bridge to sell you. >> with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very
paul ryan versus joe biden in centerville, kentucky, last night. come on, this is add good as it ever gets. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me something. show me a policy. show me a policy where you take responsibility. >> this is a plan that's bipartisan. it's a plan i put together with a prominent democrat senator from oregon. >> there's not one democrat who endorses it. not one democrat who signed the plan. >> our partner is a democrat from...
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one a day 50+. >>> joe and i are from similar towns. you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today. it's 10%. it was 8.5% the day you came in. that's how it's going around america. >> it's going down. >> it is going down. one of many insta fact checking moments. joining us is frank rich. his next feature story is out next week. it's called the right will triumh in the end. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> i had a good time watching that debate. it moved so bad. the interrupting was not pointless. i thought it was an accountability thing. >> it was accountability and it was conversational. it wasn't stagy. it doesn't seem like a stunt put together although it probably was. the thing that worked for biden he comes across as having a sense of humor. that made his interruption not seem bad. although according to republicans he's an alcoholic, pill popping, druggy. >> they said it was damaging for the president to be scowling and damaging for the president to look worried. >> what are they supposed to look constipated al
one a day 50+. >>> joe and i are from similar towns. you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today. it's 10%. it was 8.5% the day you came in. that's how it's going around america. >> it's going down. >> it is going down. one of many insta fact checking moments. joining us is frank rich. his next feature story is out next week. it's called the right will triumh in the end. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> i had a good time watching that...
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the music and enjoys a good political brawl. >> let joe be joe, i say. bring it on. say it 30 times, it doesn't bother me. come on, joe. thank you, cynthia and eugene robinson. whether president obama is better with a good debate performance or a good unemployment rate, which he actually got. you're watching "hardball," a place for politics. you want the best for your body, so choose the multivitamin that helps you stay at your optimal health: centrum® silver in every bottle you get the number one doctor and pharmacist recommended, most complete multivitamin backed by thirty years of science. try centrum® silver. visit centrum-dot-com for your three dollar coupon. some aerosols may just mix with them. can febreze remove them? [ moderator ] describe the smell. it's very pleasant. some kind of flower maybe? ♪ awww, oh yuck! [ male announcer ] febreze air effects doesn't mix, it actually removes odors so you can breathe happy. it actually removes odors when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have somethi
the music and enjoys a good political brawl. >> let joe be joe, i say. bring it on. say it 30 times, it doesn't bother me. come on, joe. thank you, cynthia and eugene robinson. whether president obama is better with a good debate performance or a good unemployment rate, which he actually got. you're watching "hardball," a place for politics. you want the best for your body, so choose the multivitamin that helps you stay at your optimal health: centrum® silver in every bottle...
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joe mcknight finds a crease and gets the jets back in the game with special teams. 100 yards for the score. his second career kickoff return for a touchdown. jets within six points. two minutes left in the game now. jets still down six. a chance to drive, chance to be a hero. sanchez throws high and out tide to cumberland. jackson gets it off the tip for the pick. that seals it. the texans beat the jets 23-17. another ugly performance for sanchez finishing below 50% passing for the fourth consecutive game. the lines for the game, 44% completion rate, 3 touchdowns and 5 interceptions. >>> on sunday, kansas city chiefs fans hit a low when they cheered as their own quarterback matt cassell lay motionless after suffering a head injury. sunday's game against the ravens. the chiefs fans who were frustrated with cassell's play voice their approval with cheers as cassell remained on his back for several minutes before leaving and giving way to fan favorite backup brady quinn. yesterday chief's offensive lineman eric winston ripped into his own fans for cheering the injury to his quarterback.
joe mcknight finds a crease and gets the jets back in the game with special teams. 100 yards for the score. his second career kickoff return for a touchdown. jets within six points. two minutes left in the game now. jets still down six. a chance to drive, chance to be a hero. sanchez throws high and out tide to cumberland. jackson gets it off the tip for the pick. that seals it. the texans beat the jets 23-17. another ugly performance for sanchez finishing below 50% passing for the fourth...
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i would agree with tamron of course joe has to be joe. i would quibble with the extent he's had these blunders. some of these things i wouldn't count as the same kind of gaffes or blunders as we've seen from political candidates. his one blunter of being sometimes a little too enfouss a tick will play well because the stage has been set here for this campaign to make a really, you know, sort of powerful haymaker. so biden is the best person to be at-bat right now. >> tamron, i want to show you some images of paul ryan. i hope you will be able to see these. these are from a "time" magazine photo shoot in december of last year that were just published today and they have taken on a life of their own. this photo started floating around facebook and twitter after people commented how the photos made him look like a cast member of the 1990s show "saved by the bell" and our own team drew the line between ryan and the character goober from "the andy griffith show." i guess image management will be paramount for paul ryan because he's not as well
i would agree with tamron of course joe has to be joe. i would quibble with the extent he's had these blunders. some of these things i wouldn't count as the same kind of gaffes or blunders as we've seen from political candidates. his one blunter of being sometimes a little too enfouss a tick will play well because the stage has been set here for this campaign to make a really, you know, sort of powerful haymaker. so biden is the best person to be at-bat right now. >> tamron, i want to...
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do you expect joe biden to come out swinging? >> i do. i mean, i think -- first of all, i think he's a pretty good debater. doing it for a long time. he's relatible, quick on his feet and likable. >> you're not playing the expectations game, are you? >> no, i just -- no. i think it's silly of us to discount joe biden making gaffes as of late. but what i would say is i think it's important. i think joe biden will come out and try to make up ground for barack obama and we'll see how it plays out. paul's a smart guy and will do well. >> good to have you on the program. thanks so much. >> thanks, chris. >>> speaking of debate, gentlemen, i have a clip of "saturday night live" i have to play. watch. >> is there anything more exciting than joe biden thinking it's up to him to get the lead back? it's tivo time. a 50% chance he'll come out with the shirt off. probably covering himself with animal fat to make himself harder to grab. >> i watched that like four times over the week. kept playing it back and forth and back and forth. i thought it was
do you expect joe biden to come out swinging? >> i do. i mean, i think -- first of all, i think he's a pretty good debater. doing it for a long time. he's relatible, quick on his feet and likable. >> you're not playing the expectations game, are you? >> no, i just -- no. i think it's silly of us to discount joe biden making gaffes as of late. but what i would say is i think it's important. i think joe biden will come out and try to make up ground for barack obama and we'll see...
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joe biden versus joe biden. ryan barely showed up. he passed the threshold and did fine but if you like sneering attacks from this kind of senator, you're going to love it. >> wow. >> sneering attacks from this pompous old senator. >> but if -- >> not a joe biden fan. >> i am a joe biden fan. if you think joe biden is over the top you're going to not like it. you saw the reactions kind of split down the middle. >> if you think -- every seniority yen human being thinks joe biden is over the top. >> joe biden -- >> hold on. >> he came in with this cultural expectation, courtesy of the onion he was going to take his shirt off and rather up the podium. like he has a lot of room to run. >> i don't think statesman is a word you particularly associate with vice president biden. he was not statesman-like yesterday. he wasn't supposed to be. it's not the training that he got to go out there. he was going to go out there and beat up romney and he did that. >> by the way, the fact that the republicans are making a big deal about whether he was s
joe biden versus joe biden. ryan barely showed up. he passed the threshold and did fine but if you like sneering attacks from this kind of senator, you're going to love it. >> wow. >> sneering attacks from this pompous old senator. >> but if -- >> not a joe biden fan. >> i am a joe biden fan. if you think joe biden is over the top you're going to not like it. you saw the reactions kind of split down the middle. >> if you think -- every seniority yen human...
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take a listen. >> can i call you joe? >>> you can call me joe. >> can i call you joe? well, i'm going to talk with a guy i call john harwood who says for better or worse vp debates can leave that lasting tingle or taste in our mouths. next what the candidates need to do to make sure their memorable moment is a good one. plus, former ohio governor ted strickland will join me live in kentucky. first, there's a lot going on today and here are a few things we thought you should know. mayor cory booker admits to being a bit frustrated when watching the presidential debates. he said when romney talked about needing to hire a new accountant he wanted to scream out, quote, obama say, keep your accountant. they're allowing you to pay only 13% in taxes. the president needs to, quote, throw more punches when he faces mitt romney tuesday. congressman paul ryan shows off his guns, if you want to call them that? new issue of "time" magazine on stands this friday. you see there, the congressman in a foot tow shoot with his workout routine. ryan is a big fan of p 90 x workouts and he
take a listen. >> can i call you joe? >>> you can call me joe. >> can i call you joe? well, i'm going to talk with a guy i call john harwood who says for better or worse vp debates can leave that lasting tingle or taste in our mouths. next what the candidates need to do to make sure their memorable moment is a good one. plus, former ohio governor ted strickland will join me live in kentucky. first, there's a lot going on today and here are a few things we thought you should...
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with me now, steve almendorf and republican strategist, joe watkins. >> joe, let me start with you. have the campaigns entered the new phase like "the wall street journal" suggests? are we in closing argument time? if so, what does it mean for both of these campaigns? >> we are in closing argument time, that's not much time left. both campaigns have to work hard to get their message out to voters, what's important for mitt romney, as well as for president obama is getting the folks that are likely to vote for him to show up at the polls and vote on election day, you've got to make sure that the likely voters are the ones that gets the out that you want to get out. >> one of the commercials at the journal predicted the romney campaign out with a new ad highlighting vice president biden's behavior in that debate. >> don't raise taxes on small businesses because they're our job creators, leaders run to problems to fix problems. >> the romney campaign betting on independent voters not liking biden's laughter there. is the jury still out on this thing, steve. >> i think the jury is done,
with me now, steve almendorf and republican strategist, joe watkins. >> joe, let me start with you. have the campaigns entered the new phase like "the wall street journal" suggests? are we in closing argument time? if so, what does it mean for both of these campaigns? >> we are in closing argument time, that's not much time left. both campaigns have to work hard to get their message out to voters, what's important for mitt romney, as well as for president obama is getting...
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you know joe biden well. how much pressure do you think joe biden is feeling that, if anything, he needs to make the base of the democratic party feel good about again. >> the base has been demoralized. there's no question about that. he will do that without question. that's really not a big burden on him. i think the real burden is on congressman ryan. because he's taken positions that he now either has to repudiate, walk away from, or explain. kwun of the things that i think is a great opportunity for the vice president tonight is the more he highlights the ryan budget and the devastating cuts he makes to programs that benefit hard working, middle class americans, that's going to help democratic candidates across the country because every republican incumbent voted for that budget. >> susan, it's interesting. i was asking dan senor about it. you know the ryan budget is going to come up and there are differences between the romney budget and the ryan budget. not major ones, but enough that there are some dis
you know joe biden well. how much pressure do you think joe biden is feeling that, if anything, he needs to make the base of the democratic party feel good about again. >> the base has been demoralized. there's no question about that. he will do that without question. that's really not a big burden on him. i think the real burden is on congressman ryan. because he's taken positions that he now either has to repudiate, walk away from, or explain. kwun of the things that i think is a great...
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he's not joe biden. he's never given in the campaign so far as passionate the way joe biden did the other night. he has to do that. he has to be as convincing, probably more. he has to look like he wants it, like he's enjoying it as much as joe biden. >> like he wants to actually be there, be in the debate. >> and wants the job. >> we've seen a shake-up of sorts in the polls here lately with governor romney gaining some ground. today's tracking poll shows that mitt romney is now lead big two points there among likely voters. the romney camp pushing it. how much success are they having with that part of the debate. with the again benn ga city stuff? >> definitely. you saw it coming into and out of that vice-presidential debate. paul ryan had the branding as this economic policy wonk and yet the first question that he faced was the administration's handling of the libyan attack and the assault on benghazi and he ended up taking the case to the vice president through the beginning of that debate and that's
he's not joe biden. he's never given in the campaign so far as passionate the way joe biden did the other night. he has to do that. he has to be as convincing, probably more. he has to look like he wants it, like he's enjoying it as much as joe biden. >> like he wants to actually be there, be in the debate. >> and wants the job. >> we've seen a shake-up of sorts in the polls here lately with governor romney gaining some ground. today's tracking poll shows that mitt romney is...
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when joe biden was a vp candidate in 2008 he wasn't well defined. now he has a larger than life persona to live up to. so does ryan. >> joe biden had a reputation in congress. >> now he's in the onion. >> steve schmidt says there is no sympathetic character up there with biden this time which is to say there is no sarah palin. biden will bring his proverbial none chucks and brass knuckles. >> i think literally. >> there was a lot of talk about the gender dynamics and how biden couldn't go on the attack. paul ryan is a young dude but has a congressional record he's basically semi sort of or not at all running on depending on the day. we know joe bind has a copy of "young guns". >> do you think he's reading it? >> i do. >> you have someone who's risen up through the ranks of the policy wong wonkery on the right and someone with a natural feel with people. it will be great to see those police station come through head to head, especially when it comes to paul ryan and mitt romney's budget plans. for seniors that single group joe biden can reach no one
when joe biden was a vp candidate in 2008 he wasn't well defined. now he has a larger than life persona to live up to. so does ryan. >> joe biden had a reputation in congress. >> now he's in the onion. >> steve schmidt says there is no sympathetic character up there with biden this time which is to say there is no sarah palin. biden will bring his proverbial none chucks and brass knuckles. >> i think literally. >> there was a lot of talk about the gender dynamics...
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. >> will joe biden have to prove he's tougher? >> we think he'll come at me like a can bonn ball. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell. mitt romney is trying to turn the momentum from his debate performance into a political tidal wave. stinging to swing state spots including today's foreign policy speech containing attacks on the president's record. during the daily fix, chris. this was mitt romney going after president obama saying he's leading from behind. i just got off a conference call the obama team put on with madeleine albright. he barely mentioned china and his mention of russia they say russia is not the greatest foreign policy challenge. when it comes to the middle east he senses vulnerability in the wake of benghazi. >> i think it's an attempt for romney to push the reset button. they put out a statement, a political statement before we knew about the death of ambassador chris stef ens that they could have handled it better but it doesn't mean they should leave the issue alone. they think the president is vulnerable. i tho
. >> will joe biden have to prove he's tougher? >> we think he'll come at me like a can bonn ball. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell. mitt romney is trying to turn the momentum from his debate performance into a political tidal wave. stinging to swing state spots including today's foreign policy speech containing attacks on the president's record. during the daily fix, chris. this was mitt romney going after president obama saying he's leading from behind. i just got off a...
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vice president joe biden and paul ryan prepare to square off tonight in kentucky. new poll numbers show the current vp has his work cut out for him. according to a new survey from the pugh center, 39% of registered voters view biden favorably. that's compared to 44% who favor ryan. when it comes to predicting the winner of tonight's debate, 40% of registered voters say ryan will come out on top. 34% think biden will prevail. nbc's tracie potts has a preview of tonight's debate. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the pressure is on vice president biden to try to turn things around after the presidential debate last week. he has the experience on the debate stage to do so. but as you saw in the numbers, it looks like the public is betting more on paul ryan. ryan took a bit of an exertion yesterday while he was practicing in florida saying that the vice president will probably come at me like a cannonball. but that the obama record, as ryan put it, is his achilles heel. ryan is in kentucky after debate preps in florida and virginia. he's done three mock debates.
vice president joe biden and paul ryan prepare to square off tonight in kentucky. new poll numbers show the current vp has his work cut out for him. according to a new survey from the pugh center, 39% of registered voters view biden favorably. that's compared to 44% who favor ryan. when it comes to predicting the winner of tonight's debate, 40% of registered voters say ryan will come out on top. 34% think biden will prevail. nbc's tracie potts has a preview of tonight's debate. good morning....
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joe biden understands these policies. i think he's going to confront ryan with the truth of his policies, with the truth of romney record. that's what not just the democratic party is looking for but the nation is looking for. >> thank you both for your time this evening. >> thank you. >>> coming up, about that debate, president obama says he just had a bad night. more on what the president is saying and what he's planning for round two. don't miss it. >>> and affirmative action heads to the supreme court. and i was inside as the drama played out. stay with us. you know, i was once used for small jobs. yeah, and i took on all the bigger, tougher ones. but now that mr. clean's got this new select-a-size magic eraser, i mean, he can take on any size job. look how easily he gets things cleaned. it's enough to make you cry. you, specifically. not me. i'm just happy we don't go near rex's mobile home as often. because it's hard to clean or because you're scared of an itty-bitty doggy? [ dog barks ] aah! oh! [ clears throat ] y
joe biden understands these policies. i think he's going to confront ryan with the truth of his policies, with the truth of romney record. that's what not just the democratic party is looking for but the nation is looking for. >> thank you both for your time this evening. >> thank you. >>> coming up, about that debate, president obama says he just had a bad night. more on what the president is saying and what he's planning for round two. don't miss it. >>> and...
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joe for better and worse being joe. >> our adversaries are much more willing tomorrow bra embrace us >> with all due respect, that is malarkey. >> under a romney administer, we will have credibility under this issue. >> vice president biden. >> that's incredible. >> thank goodness we have these sanctions in place. >> oh, god. >> over 100 can criminal investigations have been launched. >> go ahead. >> martha, look -- >> and at one point the vice president seemed to even hold himself back from actually cursing. >> this is a bunch of stuff. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> irish call it malarkey. >> ryan, of course, largely avoided taking the bait. he did push back at biden a few times including this little zinger. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> the democratic base needed a shot in the arm and biden gave it to them, deploying several attacks that romney failed to use in just one minute of the debate. one minute.
joe for better and worse being joe. >> our adversaries are much more willing tomorrow bra embrace us >> with all due respect, that is malarkey. >> under a romney administer, we will have credibility under this issue. >> vice president biden. >> that's incredible. >> thank goodness we have these sanctions in place. >> oh, god. >> over 100 can criminal investigations have been launched. >> go ahead. >> martha, look -- >> and at one...
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that side of joe biden is what i expect to see. for ryan, he'd better be prepared to deal with that because you can be put off by that if you're, as jonathan -- >> suppose he does something like this. his mother lived to a great old age. we were at the funeral, she was a great lady. had a lot to do with his upbringing obviously. he might say my grandma finnegan, should they have gone out and bought health insurance with their vouchers? will he bring it down home? >> just remember, two things to remember. first of all, joe biden is the only one of all four of these candidates who flutely speaks the language of populism and it's a populist moment. he's the only one. not room, not obama, not ryan. remember what his most effective moment in the sarah palin debate was? it was the moment when he turned on her and brought up the experience of losing his wife, his first wife and son and infant daughter and what it was like to be raising his sons alone. it was a very personal moment. it was like exactly what you're talking about. instead of
that side of joe biden is what i expect to see. for ryan, he'd better be prepared to deal with that because you can be put off by that if you're, as jonathan -- >> suppose he does something like this. his mother lived to a great old age. we were at the funeral, she was a great lady. had a lot to do with his upbringing obviously. he might say my grandma finnegan, should they have gone out and bought health insurance with their vouchers? will he bring it down home? >> just remember,...
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watch out, uncle joe. actually, "time" magazine released these photos today showing congressman ryan pumping iron last december, not exactly the images he wants out the night before he needs to prove that he's ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. ryan's workout routine probably won't come up tonight but his macho vision for the country will and it should. ryan and romney are pushing a radical remaking of the social contract that americans have relied on for many decades. it's a investigation that includes a budget where 62% of the cuts come from the poor. cuts to medicaid, cuts to food stamps, pell grants, all while cuts to the defense department and oil industry continue as usual. ryan will have to defend that record tonight and he'll have to defend comments like these. >> before too long we could become a society that we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the majority of americans are makers, not takers. they believe the american idea. only 30% want the welfare
watch out, uncle joe. actually, "time" magazine released these photos today showing congressman ryan pumping iron last december, not exactly the images he wants out the night before he needs to prove that he's ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. ryan's workout routine probably won't come up tonight but his macho vision for the country will and it should. ryan and romney are pushing a radical remaking of the social contract that americans have relied on for many decades....
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you know, barack obama was asked what should joe biden do, he said, well, joe just needs to be joe. well, joe was definitely joe. >> that's what his son said on the show last night. >> he did what barack obama said he should do. i think that broadly you're exactly right, chris, which is the democratic base wanted this. they like that joe biden. they don't care that, oh, well, he was disparaging. they don't care about any of that stuff related to paul ryan. they like the laughing and smiling. the republican base doesn't like joe biden going in. they're not going to like joe biden going out. it doesn't change the race in any way, shape, or form. i don't want to sound too cynical, my guess is most people who remain undecided at this point probably were watching some combination of orioles/yankees, nfl, something else. >> we'll see. here is what john dickerson wrote today about the vice president performance. biden was defending the middle class while ryan was defending romney. biden's greatest asset was his, though he might have been over the top. . it was possible for a viewer to conc
you know, barack obama was asked what should joe biden do, he said, well, joe just needs to be joe. well, joe was definitely joe. >> that's what his son said on the show last night. >> he did what barack obama said he should do. i think that broadly you're exactly right, chris, which is the democratic base wanted this. they like that joe biden. they don't care that, oh, well, he was disparaging. they don't care about any of that stuff related to paul ryan. they like the laughing and...
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the president is not joe biden. you know, he's not going to be that demonstrative but certainly we can expect him to be more aggressive. he leaves tomorrow morning for another debate camp, training camp, if you will, three days in another swing state. he's not going to be far away, in williamsburg, virginia, and he'll go directly from there to the debate next tuesday night. what white house officials will only say about how any adjustments that the president is making last night on the plane, a senior official telling reporters governor romney is trying to hide a variety of his positions and we're going to make sure the american people understand what he would actually do if he's president, martin. >> good luck with that. nbc's mike viqueira. thank you, as always. stay with us. the week's "top lines" are coming up. go! here it comes! right in the numbers. boom! get it! spin! oh nice hands! thank you, as always. my favor! oh! [ male announcer ] share what you love, with who you love. kellogg's frosted flakes. they're
the president is not joe biden. you know, he's not going to be that demonstrative but certainly we can expect him to be more aggressive. he leaves tomorrow morning for another debate camp, training camp, if you will, three days in another swing state. he's not going to be far away, in williamsburg, virginia, and he'll go directly from there to the debate next tuesday night. what white house officials will only say about how any adjustments that the president is making last night on the plane, a...